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Georgia treads on the 1st Amendment while attacking the 2nd

19 Oct
Georgia treads on the 1st Amendment while attacking the 2nd

Gun grabbing zealots often let their disregard for the Second Amendment bleed into other enumerated rights.  Such an example can be found in Georgia where law abiding citizens are prohibited from carrying their firearms into places of worship.

Now, this isn’t a church, synagogue or mosque saying they don’t want guns there…it is the government telling these places of worship they CAN’T ALLOW them.

A child praying over a meal in school, cheerleaders writing a bible quote on a banner, or a cross on a high school football helmet and the civil rights activists come storming in decrying separation of church and state blah blah blah.

But when the government forcibly dictates how a church must operate, those same people fall silent.  The First Amendment is written specifically to stop the government from dictating how a house of worship is to be operated.

Seeing how the separation of church and state crowd only view it as a one way street it is up to gun owners to fight the fight in order to kick government out of the pulpit.

Spearheaded by Georgiacarry.org, the suit has initially been rejected by the state level courts and the 11th District of Appeals Court.  That means the only court left to hear this case and decide the matter will be the US Supreme Court if they decide to hear the case.

This story reminds me of my earlier posts concerning Derry New Hampshire mainly because of the idiocy that some of the people down in Georgia have espoused in regards to this issue.

Such as:

“Guns and church don’t mix,” said Shannon Johnson. “I don’t believe that you should have any kind of violent weapons near a church.

“If you need a gun to go to church, you don’t need to be there,” added Ronnie Russell.

Some people just refuse to learn from history.  I contend that you need a gun in church just as much as you need a gun to go to the movie theater, or to work, or to the store or to class in college.

Of course, when these places are gun free zones, like currently every house of worship is in Georgia, you are making it very easy for the bad men to do evil there.

Because guess what?  You are not disarming the psychopath whose looking to murder a bunch of people, no, you are actually facilitating his crime and the government is an accessory to murder.

The people you are disarming?  Ian Kilov.  Ian is a member of the Sandy Springs Gun Club, and he also carries a 9mm handgun in a holster at all times, except when he enters his synagogue.

“It’s quite scary in a way,” said Kilov. “Not that everything’s ever happened at our synagogue or church – but if it were to, I would feel very foolish.”

So…Ian will follow the law.  The guy who is about to commit murder is all ready willing to break that law…do you honestly think he’ll give a damn about your little gun prohibition?

I hope the Supreme Court takes this case and overturns the lower courts ruling because the government has no place in religion and any gun free zone that can be eliminated is a step against mass murder.

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16 Comments

Posted by on October 19, 2012 in Uncategorized

 

16 responses to “Georgia treads on the 1st Amendment while attacking the 2nd

  1. Wellington Green Santa

    October 19, 2012 at 10:40 am

    Since places of worship are often the target of terror, we absolutely should have the right to defend ourselves and our loved ones while there.

     
  2. Jefferson A Sweet

    October 19, 2012 at 10:50 am

    Nullification works when the state is unconstitutional too.

     
  3. Randy kirkpatrick

    October 19, 2012 at 10:50 am

    The Obama admin are very anti gun , and very anti American. He would burn our constitution if he could. Makes pray 5 times a day on a rug, I would rather Die first!! We need a real AMERICAN in office.

     
  4. Beth

    October 19, 2012 at 11:17 am

    The First Amendment is also intended to stop a church from telling the government how to operate. And it is NOT intended to allow churches to disobey the law.

     
    • Tony Oliva

      October 19, 2012 at 11:30 am

      Not for not Beth, it has nothing to do with what you said. The Bill of Rights only limits what the Government can do to the people not the other way around. If what you said was true than the 5th Amendment would trump the freedom of information act because the government would be protected from incriminating itself.

      If you are referring to the separation of church and state it’s actually more of a guideline than actually written anywhere official. The First Amendment only states that:

      Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

      The term “separation of church and state” is written in a short letter Thomas Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptists in 1802. And that was more to reinforce that the government won’t dictate religion. There is an argument to be made that the attempts to ban prayer in schools would be a violation of the concept of separation of church and state as Jefferson wrote it.

       
  5. C. Thompson

    October 19, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    Good argument! You wouldn’t want to think you needed a gun in a house or worship! If laws allow guns in theaters, at the workplace, in a college classroom, etc., then people hell-bent on evil will seek other places to go that have a high number of people in one place- and “church” would be a logical choice!! Malls, hospitals and ball parks, too. I’m guessing you could “carry” in a mall; but how about a ball park, or hospital?

     
  6. Azure James

    October 19, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    Who gives a darn if it’s legal. Do it anyway. No one will notice or care. We’re talking about the Deep South, not NY.

     
  7. Billy Jack

    October 19, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    The State of GA can kiss my A**. I carry a gun whenever and wherever I need to feel safe and to ensure the safety of those around me.

     
  8. Guy Freed

    October 19, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    That’s why it’s called “Concealed Carry”. You do it right and no one knows. If you have to use it, then deal with the consequences. It’s always easier to beg forgiveness than to ask permission. At least you will be around to beg!!
    Better tried by twelve than carried by six!

     
  9. Ben

    October 19, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    What about the churches that have been stormed by bad guys in Colorado and Wisconsin ? Can they use those as examples of nothing happens at churches?

     
  10. Ed Hall

    October 19, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    In MO you can’t and can at the same time. The law states that concealed weapons cannot be brought into a house of worship — unless you have prior permission of the leaders of the church. This allows churches to have security teams consisting of members, if they feel they need to have one.

     
  11. Chris

    October 19, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    This is one of those areas that should be left up to the church. The government has no business telling a private property owner that they cannot permit something that us otherwise lawful on any other piece of private property. We also need to remember, as this article stated, that the current law has not protected anyone. When Martin Luther King’s Mother was gunned down in a Georgia church, the perp was not inhibited by the law against his actions. This is an unconstitutional law; I will act accordingly…

     
  12. Ian MacEwan

    October 20, 2012 at 9:48 am

    A. Guns in Church
    The statute that most clearly states the intent of “bring your guns to church” laws is a 1643 Connecticut
    order, “To prevent or withstand such sudden assaults as may be made by Indeans upon the Sabboth or
    lecture dayes, It is Ordered, that one person in every several howse wherein is any souldear or souldears, shall
    bring a musket, pystoll or some peece, with powder and shott to e[a]ch meeting….” Connecticut found
    within a month that, “Whereas it is obsearved that the late Order for on[e] in a Family to bring his Arms to
    the meeting house every Sabboth and lecture day, hath not bine attended by divers persons” there was now a
    fine for failing to do so.
    http://www.saf.org/journal/16/colonialfirearmregulation.pdf

     
  13. curtis brockwell

    October 20, 2012 at 10:49 am

    I sincerely hope the supreme court will hear and overturn this ruling. But considereing the supreme court is barack obamas supreme court and he hates guns and americans and americans rights, I don’t really see it going in a good way.

     
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