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If you are a gun owner at Bank of America…it’s time you left them

08 Jan
If you are a gun owner at Bank of America…it’s time you left them

Bank of America has once again shown its hostility and disdain for the 2nd Amendment, its gun owner customers and for free enterprise.  I first reported a story last year about McMillan Co. which had their accounts closed by BoA because they branched out into firearms manufacturing.

Well, apparently Bank of America has decided to double down on the harassment of gun manufacturers in an attempt to dictate how they should operate their business and what that business should entail.

Bank of America business customer American Spirit Arms discovered that during a sales rush in December, BoA decided to freeze their accounts and effectively hamstring the gun manufacturer.

Owner of American Spirit Arms, Joe Sirochman recounts his discussion with the bank after he inquires about the frozen funds:

“After countless hours on the phone with Bank of America, I finally got a manager in the right department that told me the reason that the deposits were on hold for further review — her exact words were — ‘We believe you should not be selling guns and parts on the Internet.’”

So BoA arbitrarily decides that they will try and sabotage a law abiding company because of their gun control agenda.  If that is a bank you wish to do business with that is your prerogative,  though I suggest you do not try to purchase a firearm with their debit card, you may be labeled a gun runner and have your account frozen indefinitely…just for kicks.

This whole situation reminds me of the Obama Administrations plan to involve big business as his allies in order to push through his radical and un-American gun control agenda.  Initially, the idea was presented as a way for gun sellers such as Wal-Mart and Dick’s to be able to support the Obama measures without losing business as they would get the equivalent to a loophole kickback.  I don’t see why that same type of cronyism wouldn’t extend to the bankers who could use their accounts to cripple and undercut gun shops and manufacturers thus driving them out of business.

I’m sure the payoff for their support of Obama and his draconian attack on the Constitution will massaged into some fiduciary deal down the road.

Once again, even when he’s not hiding his hatred for the 2nd Amendment, Obama is still operating “under the radar” in order to lull the American people into a belief that their constitutional rights aren’t under attack.

All this talk of gun bans may only be a feint while his machinations reveal themselves later when the only people who are buying and making firearms are in his back pocket.  Once that happens, our rights extend only at the pleasure of the President.

Don’t support businesses that don’t support your 2nd Amendment rights…and certainly not ones that are openly hostile to them like Bank of America.

Now, with all this doom and gloom do not think that all businesses are out to trod over your Second Amendment rights.  Gun Owners of America also urges you to support businesses in your area that have shown themselves to be true supporters of the 2nd Amendment.

Even businesses that may not necessarily be PRO gun can and have stood up against the heavy handed extortion policies of gun grabbing zealots.  Starbucks coffee springs to mind.

In case you are unaware, Starbucks coffee has a company policy that allows gun owners to openly carry their firearms in their coffee shops in states where it is legal.  As you can imagine, when this first came out anti gunners flipped out and demanded Starbucks change their policy to make all of there coffee shops into gun free zones.

Starbucks refused and as such your chances of being murdered in a Starbucks is greatly reduced compared to other places that kow tow to the gun control lobby and created Criminal Opportunity Zones… euphemistically known as gun free zones.

As more stories of pro gun and other non capitulating businesses come up I’ll be sure to pass that information on because just as we should avoid businesses that hate the 2nd Amendment, if other businesses are going to stand by gun owners, we should return the sentiment in kind.

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47 Comments

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47 responses to “If you are a gun owner at Bank of America…it’s time you left them

  1. Alice

    January 8, 2013 at 10:40 am

    See!!! I knew I loved Starbucks!!!!!!

     
    • Tony Oliva

      January 8, 2013 at 10:47 am

      Hahaha…kind of surprised me too Alice.

       
  2. Bill Rogers

    January 8, 2013 at 10:54 am

    I TRULY hope these guys found a more AMERICAN bank than Bank of AMERICA.

     
  3. Alice

    January 8, 2013 at 10:58 am

    Bank of Obama!!!!

     
  4. afields

    January 8, 2013 at 11:08 am

    Another reason to dislike BOA and LOVE Starbucks!!

     
  5. Ted N

    January 8, 2013 at 11:13 am

    USAA, FTW.

     
  6. Eric R

    January 8, 2013 at 11:33 am

    Bass pro shops us BoA for there customer credit cards and rewards. You should contact them to rethink this move.

     
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  8. Karen

    January 8, 2013 at 12:07 pm

    I have been looking for a new bank and was considering choosing BOA….now I will consider to continue to look for another bank.

     
    • Carrie

      January 8, 2013 at 1:33 pm

      Credit Unions Karen – :)

       
  9. Troy C

    January 8, 2013 at 12:09 pm

    So everyone thinks that the bank of America must lose its right to the first amendment rights to protect the second amendment.

     
    • Tony Oliva

      January 8, 2013 at 12:16 pm

      I’m not sure I follow what you mean Troy. No one says that B of A has to not voice its opinions but to think they can spout off with whatever anti gun nonsense they want without financial repercussions of customers who would rather take their business elsewhere is ridiculous.

      They are free to be as anti gun as they want and if they want to hamstring and insult their customers they are welcome to do so. But they shouldn’t be surprised when those customers don’t accept that treatment and take their money elsewhere.

       
    • ElynnKy

      January 8, 2013 at 4:57 pm

      Does the first amendment include a right to freeze someone’s bank account because you don’t like what they are selling?

       
  10. repeal1968guncontrolact

    January 8, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    How many of you have store credit cards that use skank of america? BofA established itself as the enemy of the American people many years ago, yet ASA was using them? Good grief. It’s no wonder we lost so many battles in the past, we help our enemies profit. If you have any cards from bofa/chase/citi, just cut out the middleman and send a check directly to dianne feinswine.

     
    • Carrie

      January 8, 2013 at 1:36 pm

      I agree. My boyfriend has been using BOA for his business accounts for years. They give him shit when he goes in to cash a dozen or so checks… despite having enough money in his account to cover all the checks. I have been telling him for 3 years to dump their asses and move to a local credit union. I also don’t shop at Wal Mart and keep an eye open for business that are both local or who’s politics I agree with. THIS is how we will put a stop to cronyism.. cna’t just spout off about it, you have to walk the walk

       
  11. Troy C

    January 8, 2013 at 12:26 pm

    A business has only one way of voicing its freedome of speach in by refusing to do business with certian industries, or companies. The same can be said of customers, and what businesses thy deal with. In this case i think that this is a case of the First and Second colliding. It has happened before and it will happen again.

     
    • Jack Martin

      January 8, 2013 at 1:02 pm

      Freedom of speech is not the issue here. The problem is that BoA is federally chartered and is REQUIRED to follow guidelines in regards to deposits, transactions, etc. They CANNOT just decide to hold a customer’s funds…just because. THAT IS ILLEGAL!

       
  12. Laura Taylor

    January 8, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    Yes, it would be a different story if it is in their charter not to do business with companies that buy/sell guns/parts.

     
  13. Thomas

    January 8, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    Exactly Jack! Their freedom of speech was not so much the issue. They were messing with the mans money and business. Absolutely no right to do that.

     
  14. Todd

    January 8, 2013 at 2:47 pm

    We contacted Bank of America for a response, and spokeswoman Anne Pace told us that while she could not comment on the bank’s relationship with McMillan Group, she could tell us that Bank of America “has no policies that would prohibit us from doing business with clients in [the firearms] industry.” As evidence, she pointed us to an April 2012 financial news article which mentioned, among other topics, a $250 million business deal involving Bank of America with Freedom Group Inc., one of the world’s largest manufacturers of firearms and ammunition:

     
    • Tony Oliva

      January 8, 2013 at 2:51 pm

      Interesting. Perhaps that makes them bullies than. Strong arm and harass smaller firearm related businesses while placating/tolerating a cash cow.

      Wouldn’t be the first time a business tolerated a richer person while throwing a less affluent person under the bus. Happens all the time in Vegas.

       
  15. Troy C

    January 8, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    Rememeber though when and person or company signs up with bank, you are also signing that you agree to its codes of practices, and part of BoA is keep track and withhold deposits and withdrawls, if it falls outside of predicted norms. This is also federally mandated and BoA must comply

    By reading this blog again this is really about BoA,s shity customer service, more than trying to break the Second amendment. I think there are larger issues here than trying to split hairs on something that would be ignored on any other day.

     
  16. Bryan

    January 8, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    My wife knows someone involved with American Spirit, she told me about this the other day. Despite vast stretches of evidence to the contrary, these idiots continue to assume that adding more strict laws will somehow snap sense into people that cannot bear fathom the depth of responsibility required to own and carry a firearm.

     
  17. cain1

    January 8, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    businesses are not protected under the 2nd ad.. the coverage is for people not businesses

     
    • David

      January 8, 2013 at 6:37 pm

      I think Citizen’s United (and the supreme court ) will disagree. Corp’s are people

       
  18. cain1

    January 8, 2013 at 3:19 pm

    * first ad …. freedom of speech

     
  19. Laura Barnes-Miller

    January 8, 2013 at 3:42 pm

    After reading an article last night about it………… first thing this morning after our coffee……. adios Bank of America and hello Sunstate Federal Credit Union. I hope EVERYONE leaves BOA in droves!!!!

     
  20. Dan Rogers

    January 8, 2013 at 4:48 pm

    Remember there are always two sides to the story. However if BOA has started this practice of freezing accounts and telling companies and people how to do business, Then this loyal happy customer for years may have to re consider where I bank.

     
    • Roy Donnelly

      January 8, 2013 at 9:37 pm

      Me too!

       
  21. Troy C

    January 8, 2013 at 5:10 pm

    businesses are covered by the the first, otherwise newpapers, magazines, movies, theater groups would in serious trouble, to protect one you must protect them all..

     
    • JNB

      January 9, 2013 at 7:31 am

      Troy, this has nothing whatsoever to do with the First Amendment and everything to do with harrasment. BOA can blow its anti-Second-Amendment views all they want, but they do not have the right to interfere in a customer’s business, tell them what legal merchandise they can and cannot sell, and blatantly interfere with the livlihood of this person, not to mention his employees. They are way over the line and I hope Joe Sirochman is planning a blow-out lawsuit right now.

       
  22. Jose Angel Velez

    January 9, 2013 at 2:11 am

    this is the nwo

     
  23. Cheryl Dwyer

    January 9, 2013 at 7:29 am

    who made BOA the consience of America? I’m glad I’m not a customer, and never will be now.

     
  24. tim

    January 9, 2013 at 7:34 am

    i have a non-gun related business, and USED TO bank with b o a until i noticed a trend over a 2 YEAR PERIOD….a pattern when i would make deposits and withdrawals ..it would cycle, and at the “end” of the cycle, they would hold a check for an extended period, up to 10 days, a check that would clear previously in less than 24 hours…by doing so, they would claim hundreds in overdraft fees…needless to say, i don’t bank with them any longer…pulled all my acounts, cancelled credit cards and switched mortgage companys…I’m one person…how many people do they do this to every year that are un aware of this “holding” process that bank has chosen to use to scam money..i’ve found 4 people so far….

     
  25. frank nolan

    January 9, 2013 at 4:45 pm

    BofA showed its true ‘colors’ when trying to implement arbitrary debit card transaction charges a year or so ago. Other banks tried to piggy-back on the effort to simply stick-it-to-us believing that BofA was so big and powerful they could get away with such a blatant ruse.

    The public outrage was appropriate and BofA customers left in droves while the other banks backed-off aka [chickened out].and ‘we the people won’

    The point of this is that ‘money talks and b.s. walks’! The only thing BofA and other less than ‘honest’ / ethical companies understand is the bottom line. Accordingly the only recourse we have is refusing to do business with them and spreading the word at every reasonable opportunity.

     
  26. ian1775

    January 10, 2013 at 3:58 am

    I can’t close my BOA account. I closed my account with them years ago. Don’t like their practices in general.

     
  27. Paul Mik

    January 10, 2013 at 6:38 am

    Troy you miss the point entirely…BoA has EVERY right to take their anti gun stance…no one here disagrees. However when anyone uses there right to free speech there are consequences…positive and negative. If someone is against the 2nd amendment a supporter of this amendment would be correct in moving/taking there business elsewhere. Why would anyone support ANY business that openly opposed their views. It would be tantamount to supporting one political candidate and giving money to his/her opponent! Senseless.

     
  28. mike

    January 10, 2013 at 7:42 am

    yeah man go on Amazon and search for Starbucks guns and coffee sticker, it’s so badass!

     
  29. Lea Powell

    January 16, 2013 at 5:47 pm

    I agree 100% and I (personally hate guns), but
    Don’t be taking our rights away. This is opening a door that may not be able to be closed. Trying to take away our constitutional rights is the first stage of tyranny. Open your EYES America!

     
  30. Jack Martin

    January 16, 2013 at 10:52 pm

    Closed my account today…

     
  31. Robert

    January 23, 2013 at 9:56 am

    I think that the late school shootings are terrible don’t get that wrong but even worse than that is the media, oboma and gun haters using those shooting to support there own agenda to change the second amendment that’s just wrong that’s not going to fix things thats going to separate Americans. after 9/11 we didnt bain air plains no we went after the basterds that caused it

     
  32. Rick

    January 30, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    The 2nd amendment is the protector of our other rights (speech, religion, jury trial, unlawful prosecution, assembly, etc)

     
  33. Daniel

    May 20, 2013 at 8:01 am

    I’d love to be at the conference table that decided to implement this. I thoroughly regret taking my business to BoA, and they’ll be losing another customer very soon.

    Wake. Up. America.

     
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    January 24, 2014 at 2:02 am

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